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Has everyone been following the issues with the Attitash triple? I'm surprised nobody has mentioned it yet. That lift even has it's on blog now. The lift broke on December 17 and is still down again as of today, January 2.

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As you might be aware, our Summit Triple Lift has unfortunately been down for a number of days. During this time, our Attitash Mountain Operations team, along with two of the best lift electrical mechanics in the country from New Hampshire Electric Motors, and representatives from the New Hampshire Tram Board, have been working round-the-clock to diagnose, address, and fix the issue. While they have been making progress, at this time we are unable to give you an estimated reopening date and time. Please check back on this blog for the most up-to-date information on this fix.

Now for a little background on this lift and the process so far. Over the past Summer, in preparation for the upcoming winter, we performed extensive scheduled and required maintenance as advised by lift manufacturer, C-Tec. Along with the recommended work, we also performed a large amount of additional maintenance to this lift including: 

  • A complete rebuild of the electric drive motor.
  • A complete rebuild of the hydraulic tension system.
  • Installation of a re-machined brake disc, with a new brake disc coupling system. 

As you can imagine, lifts are very complicated pieces of machinery that are expected to function in conditions where most mechanical systems wouldn’t. They are able to to so, both because they are designed to withstand that which Mother Nature throws at them, and because of extensive lift maintenance plans and procedures. With this in mind, we pride ourselves on our preventative lift maintenance programs here at Attitash, which go above and beyond manufacturer recommendations. 

After all of our off-season updates and maintenance, the Summit Triple had been working flawlessly in the run up to the season. That is, until a single squirrel threw a metaphorical wrench in our plans, back on December 17, 2018, when they decided to step on the wrong part of the line that feeds power to our entire resort. We regret to inform you, but the squirrel is now up in the great oak tree in the sky, R.I.P. little guy. 

Since that unfortunate incident, we’ve been dealing with a number of electrical faults that have affected lift operations so far this season. On the bright side, due to the fact that we know it is an electrical issue, we can rule out anything mechanically and structurally that might be wrong. 

While our crews continue to work around the clock, we wanted to fill you in on some of the work they’ve done so far. Below you’ll find an approximate timeline of what has been accomplished over the last few days, along with some photos of the process and our hard-working lift mechanic team. 

December 17 , 2018 - Power Outage 

  • An ill-fated squirrel decides to run across a 3-phase power line feeding power into Attitash. Attitash & NH Electric Co-Op worked through the outage and power is restored that morning. 
  • After the outage, we noticed the first indication of a power supply issue at the Summit Triple. During that day, two fuses blew within the drive control system, which were replaced, along with the drive control board. 

December 18, 2018 - Attitash Opens for the Day 

  • Attitash opens, and the Summit Triple runs as scheduled. 

December 21, 2018 - Attitash closed due to weather. 

  • Summit Triple closed for the day due to some unfrozen precipitation. 

December 22, 2018 - Attitash Reopens

  • Summit Triple starts up no problem in the morning. Ski Patrol begins to ride to the summit to start accessing trails as part of daily opening procedures. During their ride, the drive control board directs the lift to stop, as a signal indicates an electrical current unbalance. 
  • Patrol are then offloaded on Auxiliary Diesel Power. 
  • Tom Bates, lift electrical mechanic from New Hampshire Electric Motors, is brought on-site to assist with the electrical supply issue. During this time, the drive control board is replaced as a short is found. 
  • After this replacement the lift is operational and functioning as normal as it undergoes necessary tests. When drive control boards are replaced many calibrations are required, such as ensuring the lift stops as designed, maximum speed is attained, and chair stopping distance remains uniform. 

December 23, 2018 - Pre-operation Issue

  • During the pre-public opening operations, the lift again registers a current unbalance indication. To rectify the issue, a contact block which had an intermittent issue was replaced, followed by extensive testing and calibration. 

December 24, 2018 - All Is Well 

  • Summit Triple operates flawlessly and runs through the day. 

December 25, 2018 - But Wait, There’s More

  • Summit Triple starts up no problem and functions normally through pre-op testing.
  • Ski Patrol loads the lift for a ride to the summit in order to start accessing trails for the day. 
  • During this first ride, The Summit Triple stops and patrol is once again offloaded utilizing  Auxiliary Diesel Power. The Summit Triple then stays closed for the rest of the day, as our lift mechanic team works to identify the ongoing issue. 

December 26, 2018 - The Call for Backup  

  • A team from New Hampshire Electric Motor arrives with a new drive control board that was overnighted from Sabina Electric of Sabina, OH., and takes the old board back to their shop for further testing. 
  • New drive control board is installed and the lift is tested and calibrated with everything appearing to be function as it should. The Summit Triple is then prepared to reopen for the following morning. 

December 27-28, 2018 - Full Rebuild 

  • Summit Triple opens to the public at 8:19 a.m. after operating as normal during morning testing and operation. 
  • At 9:55 a.m., the lift was approximately 90% loaded and was stopped due to a mis-unload which triggered the stop gate at the top of the lift as designed.
  • The lift failed to restart. 
  • Attitash mountain ops uses Auxiliary Diesel Power to off-load guests rather than take more time to diagnose the issue while the public was “in the air”.
  • All guests are offloaded within 37 minutes of lift stoppage. 
  • Attitash’s lift electrical & mechanical teams work on replacing & rebuilding entire lift electrical drive with assistance from New Hampshire Electric Motors in order to continue to isolate potential problems. A process which took nearly 36 hours and included replacing all 12 SCR (Silicon Controlled Rectifier) boards and was concluded at 11 p.m. on December 28, 2018. 
  • Lift is turned on for testing at 11 p.m and all signals indicate the system is operational, but the motor does not spin. 

December 29, 2018 -  Issues Persist

  • With the lift still not functioning, New Hampshire Electric Motors remains on-site at Attitash to replace a number of additional electrical components as they attempt to diagnose the remaining issue. 
  • New Hampshire Electric Motors will continue to work on-site with the lift ops team at Attitash to find and address the ongoing issue. 

December 30, 2018 - Round the Clock Work - Still no Time Table

  • After working through the night on our Summit Triple, we are sorry to say that we still do not have an anticipated opening time for this lift. 
  • Our crews spent another night working in the drive of the lift, during which they completely removed the entire drive system in order to access key parts that could be potentially causing the problems we are experiencing. As dawn broke they had managed to replace the parts and get the drive system back together and begin testing. As testing began, it became quickly apparent that the lift was still experiencing issues.
  • Our crews, along with the folks from New Hampshire Electric Motors are now exploring other areas and components that could be causing these issues. 

December 30, 2018 - 4pm 

  • New Hampshire Motor and Attitash Teams continued working through the day and at 4:03pm the lift is spinning.  We will be conducting tests this evening and calibrating to ensure it is ready for guests and pass holders in the morning. At this time we anticipate the Summit Triple to spin and operate as normal on December 31, 2018. Please check the snow report in the morning.

January 1, 2018 -  Windy!!

  • With winds topping 50mph at the summit the Summit Triple was on hold allowing us to do some further testing and unfortunately we found an issue with an unbalanced power feed.  

January 2, 2018 - 8am Not Loading 

  • Today the lift is down to do some further testing as we are continuing to fine tune these issues. 

 

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Frustrating for sure. Electrical issues sound frustrating, but not serious for the long term functioning of the lift. I'm obviously far from knowledge about this though.

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January 2, 2018 - They're Back

  • As some of you may have seen, the Summit Triple was up and running to start the New Year and ran virtually flawlessly. However at the end of the day we detected a few additional electrical gremlins that we need to deal with.
  • Therefore, the Summit Triple will remain on hold. Please keep an eye on our snow report for lift openings and updates.

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17 minutes ago, Infinite Dreams said:

I cannot imagine them going 2-3 more years with that nasty hunk of junk. They desperately need a new lift there.

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Why can't you imagine this? This has been going on for many years. Peak Resorts doesn't invest a dime into their MWV mountains.

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Peaks Resort is totally tone deaf on this issue,  i would love to see their 5 year plan for Attitash, beside running the place into the ground

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The lift is a joke, I was there last year when the bottom terminal caught on fire. I was lucky enough to get stuck on it for 1/2 an hour about 20 minutes before.

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January 3, 2019 - Planned Power Outages
  • The Summit Triple remains closed today, as we continue testing to diagnose and fix power supply issues that are still affecting this lift.
  • In the early hours of this morning, we conducted a controlled power outage to our resort for 30 minutes to allow technicians to install advanced testing equipment to electrical supply that feeds the Summit Triple. This testing equipment with offer us a clearer picture of the continued electrical supply issues to the lift and hopefully help us get to the root of the problem. These tests take several hours and so we plan to continue testing throughout the day on this power supply. After lifts close for the day, we will once again conduct another controlled power outage to allow the electricians to remove their equipment. If all goes well with this testing, we have a tentative plan to reopen the Summit Triple in time for Friday morning operations.

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January 3, 2019 - Planned Power Outages
  • The Summit Triple remains closed today, as we continue testing to diagnose and fix power supply issues that are still affecting this lift.
  • In the early hours of this morning, we conducted a controlled power outage to our resort for 30 minutes to allow technicians to install advanced testing equipment to electrical supply that feeds the Summit Triple. This testing equipment with offer us a clearer picture of the continued electrical supply issues to the lift and hopefully help us get to the root of the problem. These tests take several hours and so we plan to continue testing throughout the day on this power supply. After lifts close for the day, we will once again conduct another controlled power outage to allow the electricians to remove their equipment. If all goes well with this testing, we have a tentative plan to reopen the Summit Triple in time for Friday morning operations.

Guess I hit Attitash on a good day. It was running the Sunday before Christmas !

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1 hour ago, ABV said:


Guess I hit Attitash on a good day. It was running the Sunday before Christmas !

Hit it Christmas Eve and it was running then too. Tash opens so late the triple barely has run as many days as it has been closed!

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Based on what they said they did offseason for the Triple, that is a lot of $$ to spend to just scrap it next year.  They must have reuse plans if they are contemplating any upgrade there.  Hope they get this figured out, but there is a ton of wiring and circuitry in lifts up and down the line.

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Latest update.  

January 4, 2019 – The Gremlin Persists
  • While yesterday's testing helped to shed some light into the issues that continue to plague us here with the Summit Triple, we regret to inform you that it still remains closed
  • Today's work, which started in the early hours of the morning, has involved testing and retesting several of the components involved in the connection that brings power into the lift. To give you some background and insight into where we're working again today, we've broken it all down for you. First, the power comes off the line from our utility company as AC power, where it is then converted into usable DC power, which is then used to power the electric motor which drives the lift and spins the bullwheel. This process is all controlled by a system collectively referred to as "the drive." Today we will continue to troubleshoot the pieces of the puzzle between these two points, including underground wires, the drive system, SCR resistors, and several other components.
  • Basically, somewhere between the power source and the electric motor that drives the lift, there is a persistent little gremlin that needs to be found. We know the power is coming off the wire clean, but by the time it gets to the DC motor is it no longer useable. This gremlin moved in 8 days ago and we are trying our hardest to evict him. Once he's gone, we should be good to go. 
 
We thank you for your continued patience and are thankful we have such a strong team here at Attitash to help diagnose and fix these issues.
 

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Let's forget the fact that they have been putting bandaids on that lift for almost 10 years , That lift must be replaced for the area to survive. they are loosing patrons to Brenton Woods, Sunday River and even Cranmore  because of that lift. people just do not want to spend 17 minutes of there life each time they ride it. I am not sure what its going to take for management to figure this out.

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Let's forget the fact that they have been putting bandaids on that lift for almost 10 years , That lift must be replaced for the area to survive. they are loosing patrons to Brenton Woods, Sunday River and even Cranmore  because of that lift. people just do not want to spend 17 minutes of there life each time they ride it. I am not sure what its going to take for management to figure this out.
I've said something very similar to this on Instagram and had no response.

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I know at one point it was said one of the reasons they cannot put in a HSQ is on hill capacity can't handle the up hill capacity of a quad. This makes no sense to me. Can't they just spread out the chairs to control skiers up hill?

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Yes. And this seams to be very common. Especially with new 6 packs.

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1 hour ago, Benski said:


Yes. And this seams to be very common. Especially with new 6 packs.

Management has been honest that the issue is not capacity or permitting. It's money. Pure and simple. Peak Resorts does not believe that they would make back the cost of the lift in incremental new revenue. This largely is the result of not seeing their money back on the Blue Bird lift at Mt Snow.

A little birdie told me they are eyeing the motor for replacement.

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13 hours ago, Brad J said:

Let's forget the fact that they have been putting bandaids on that lift for almost 10 years , That lift must be replaced for the area to survive. they are loosing patrons to Brenton Woods, Sunday River and even Cranmore  because of that lift. people just do not want to spend 17 minutes of there life each time they ride it. I am not sure what its going to take for management to figure this out.

If this lift is replaced as a result of this, I expect a grass roots movement to have the squirrel sainted. It will have performed a veritable miracle in getting the lift replaced.

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